Would I really order 1m of pipe!

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Would I really order 1m of pipe!

#1 Post by LPGC »

The other day I ordered a few bits and bobs from a well known supplier. As I was really low on 8mm equivalent Faro pipe I included a roll of that too.

I didn't check or take much notice of the package when it arrived as I was rather busy, but a bit later, while fitting a tank on a vehicle, it dawned on me that the package seemed dubiously small to contain the bits I'd ordered including a roll of 8mm (6mm ID) equivalent Faro pipe..

So I thought I'd better check the package. The other bits and bobs arrived as ordered but instead of a roll of 8mm (6mm ID) Faro pipe, I received only 1metre(!) of the smaller 4mm ID(!) Faro pipe and the receipt reflected I'd ordered only 1m of 4mm stuff... Well you food king door handle heads... :lol: This, after a lengthy discussion at the time of ordering to clarify, and doubly clarify, and triply clarify, exactly what Faro pipe I wished to order... The wider stuff, 8mm copper equivalent, appropriate for use on fill pipes and big engines, 6mm ID not 4mm ID, the thicker stuff... please.

As if I, or any pro, would order 1 metre of Faro pipe :lol: I chuck longer lengths away as scrap, any supplier should know the crack here!

What I can only think happened is that the guy who took my order, who I know isn't himself daft when it comes to knowing the trade, made a mistake when entering my order. OK fair enough, this will happen from time to time, especially when after discussing Faro pipe you start talking about Digimax systems etc. But he then must have passed that order list on to his bird or someone on a YTS who doesn't know the crack when it comes to LPG at all, who followed the list without question.

Time was pushing 415pm when I opened the delivery. I tried to call said supplier repeatedly but their line was engaged. I have the gaffer's number, but thought he'd probably be in Poland or somewhere and advise me to phone the shop landline... and, in any case, at that time this supplier probably wouldn't be able to get an order to me for the next day anyway. Worried, now, that I wouldn't have piping around (without checking - no time to!) to finish my current job, I phoned TinleyTech and ordered some Faro pipe.. Because I know when I order from TinleyTech the correct order will arrive. I always have doubts when it comes to ordering from elsewhere. 1m of Faro pipe indeed.. This scrap is still on the floor in the yard beside where I opened the box. It may still be swept up when I sweep the yard after this job, or I might frame it to remind me of the pros and cons of various suppliers next time I depend on something arriving the next day and maybe think such a simple thing would be difficult to get wrong...

As it happened, luckily, I did have enough Faro pipe around to finish Sir Henry's conversion today, I found multiple lengths up to around 2.5m. But the lengths I found were only sufficient because Sir Henry's install has 2 tanks, so pipes only have to run as far as T pieces around the middle of the vehicle...

TinleyTech's order arrived correctly as usual, so if worst came to worst I would still have been able to finish Sir Henry's install today.But I can only think other firms must employ un-informed people that don't question mistakes on picking notes like, for example, only 1m of Faro pipe, on an order from a pro... That's like a baker going to Tesco and ordering a large bag of raisins, the manager of Tesco who knows the customer is a baker interprets the order as 1 singular raisin, and then sending a singular grape through the post instead...

I am known for writing too much and this post will live up to that... But part of the reason for that is because I like to make sure I am being clear. Just in case anyone got the wrong message - TinleyTech didn't fook up, others did, so then I ordered from TT to make sure I got stuff here on time. At the time I ordered from TT, it was either order now and be sure stuff will arrive tomorrow, or check stocks to see if I actually need to order but make it too late to order. But as it happened I had enough pipe knocking about anyway.

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#2 Post by Gilbertd »

If they sell the stuff by the metre and you ordered 1, that's exactly what you got. If they are more used to dealing with punters than pros then someone ordering 1m or 3m would be normal. You only have yourself to blame......
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#3 Post by LPGC »

No!! I ordered 1 roll of pipe, not 1m. This was in a discussion, not online. And, as said above, I went to great lengths to impress upon the bloke taking my order exactly what I wanted to order. So I have the other bloke to blame, not myself.
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#4 Post by LairdScooby »

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry, i can't help but laugh! It's not funny for you but i can see the funny side from here. Also been in similar situations myself in the past where i've ordered 1 reel of cable and been delivered 1 metre. This was down to the hair, teeth, nails and mini-skirt in Purchasing not seeing "1 reel" and ordering just "1" or maybe not understanding that the difference had to be specified with "reel".

Now, for those of us not familiar with Faro pipe, could you explain the difference between Faro pipe and copper pipe please Simon? My way of understanding it is that it's nylon pipe that is of a certain strangth and integrity to be used for gas installation?
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#5 Post by Brian_H »

Even the supermarkets can fall foul of this - I remember a Tesco order with what was supposed to be 1kg of Shallot Onions ending up as 1 single onion...

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#6 Post by LairdScooby »

Well - "that's shallot"! (That's your lot!) :wink: :lol:
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#7 Post by john_d »

LPGC wrote:I received only 1metre(!) of the smaller 4mm ID(!) Faro pipe and the receipt reflected I'd ordered only 1m of 4mm stuff...

What I can only think happened is that the guy who took my order, who I know isn't himself daft when it comes to knowing the trade, made a mistake when entering my order. OK fair enough, this will happen from time to time, especially when after discussing Faro pipe you start talking about Digimax systems etc. But he then must have passed that order list on to his bird or someone on a YTS who doesn't know the crack when it comes to LPG at all, who followed the list without question.
so the guy who took your order who you "know isn't himself daft when it comes to knowing the trade" said u wanted "only 1m of 4mm stuff", passed it to his lacky, his lacky then picked exactly what was on the order sheet? get them sacked mate - absolutely no need for someone to do their job correctly :lol:
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john_d wrote:so the guy who took your order who you "know isn't himself daft when it comes to knowing the trade" said u wanted "only 1m of 4mm stuff", passed it to his lacky, his lacky then picked exactly what was on the order sheet? get them sacked mate - absolutely no need for someone to do their job correctly
It is the guy who took my order's fault. Like I said, I went to lengths to ensure he understood what I wanted regards pipe...
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Why? I've never denied it. Better to go into too much detail than too little - and I know I'm valued on the forum. Thanks for your email a while ago congratulating me on certain posts.

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LPGC wrote:Thanks for your email a while ago congratulating me on certain posts.

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Sorry John, most have been another forum administrator if it wasn't you.

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got food king but struggling with door handles please decipher doing my head in :roll:

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kgreat wrote:got food king but struggling with door handles please decipher doing my head in :roll:

My guess is "door handle heads" is a euphemism for something else ending in heads but still starting with "D" :wink:
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#13 Post by Gilbertd »

Blimey, must be thick day. Another name for a door handle head would be a door knob......
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thanks for that I can sleep now

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kgreat wrote:got food king but struggling with door handles please decipher doing my head in :roll:
door knob head :roll:

Gilbert got it anyway!

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#16 Post by kbs »

In my motorbike days there used to be a trade supplier called Lintek.

If they didn't have a part in stock, they would send me the nearest part number they had.
Order a throttle cable and you might recive a clutch cable.
Order a 55 tooth sprocket and you might receive a 35 tooth.

The supplier could not see the problem with this. The account manager could but only after I didn't order for two months.

My guess - they new I was expecting to spend about £XXX pounds and they were not going to loose out on the sale.

LPGC - I was expecting you to say you'd been billed for 100m (including heavy postage) and received 1M first class in a jiffy bag!

I did have a minor issue with the guy I think you are talking about - I ordered a genuine full evap rebuild kit and received a cheap copy of just the diaphram. I also ordered an expensive holed metal injector ring and received a cheap plastic slotted one. As soon as I told him I could buy the parts he sent me in Poland for about a fifth of what he charged me, the parts were replaced with the genuine bits I ordered. Hopefull thinking on their part perhaps?

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#17 Post by Gilbertd »

It's when you order by part number and get a digit wrong it gets interesting. A mate was a flight sergeant in the RAF and was repairing a circuit board out of a Harrier. The fault was down to an open circuit on a little transformer on the board so he looked it up, found he could order one so did. A few days later a driver walks into his workshop and asked where he should put this transformer he'd ordered. Just bung it on the bench there mate he says to be met with a very puzzled look from the driver who pointed outside to the low loader with a full sized electricity sub-station sitting on it. One digit out on the part number......
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#18 Post by rossko »

My father-in-law wore a brown coat in some Lincolnshire RAF store ... similar typo story, one day a train of lowloaders turned up with the entire world's remaining stock of Vulcan nosewheels, instead of ironing boards.

I didn't believe it, on the basis that storemen will NEVER let the last one of any given item out, just in case somebody needs it.
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#19 Post by LPGC »

:lol: @ Gilbert and Rosko's posts...
But also :shock: :shock: ... Bit of a waste of resources etc, would hope wouldn't happen, especially if there was a war on!

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#20 Post by Gilbertd »

rossko wrote:I didn't believe it, on the basis that storemen will NEVER let the last one of any given item out, just in case somebody needs it.
I had exactly that when I worked for BT. I argued for ages that I WAS the somebody that needed it. Still didn't get whatever it was though.....
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