colin33 wrote:Seems a little steep to me, considering a full mot can be done for around half that price.
The guy told me it's only 10 minutes work plus a few minutes to fill in a form online, so maybe the high charge is a just 'punishment tax' for doing a DIY conversion
I'm a DIYer too, but I can see the reasoning - I can well imagine that installers who have carried out safety checks get the phone call 6 months down the line saying "You know that install you checked out for me, well it's not working any more..."
Plus I can't see how all the checks required could be done in 10 minutes, at least not at the speed I work anyway!
Fair enough, but just like the mot test, the inspector is only confirming that the installation is ok on the day of the test. I'm sure they cannot be held responsible for any problems later on....
Having the check done as part of the mot test in the future sounds like the best idea to me..
MarkJones wrote:mine involved a full emisions test..included measuring the amount of co2 i think, in so many cubic mtrs of exhaust ..plus the inspection .
then them putting their name on the form..for someone elses work.
having said all that ..at the time was pleased ...as i was on the way to saving a lot of money ..now i would have different thoughts ..as im not saving the same amount ..
all the best.markj
Are you saying that you would not do it again?
I only wish that I did the conversion long ago... not sure how much I'm gonna save when I eventually get round to doing it!
i would not do another conversion.unless i could get the parts really cheap.
there is no way on earth that i would pay someone else to do it ..payback may never happen.
I would go open loop on the next one ....and buy an older carbed car .
because my last conversion a carbed car made more mpg than this sequential ..as sequential seems to be about keeping the lambda happy and making the car perform the same ..tuning is like stabbing in the dark ..all guess work
..where as with open loop ..you could have your car being slower but returning the same mpg as on petrol .i wasn't bothered about the slowness ..it was the saving of money, that was all i was bothered about.
tuning ........yes it did what ever you told it to do, no guesswork ..or petrol oriented lambda or petrol oriented ecu fighting against you..it was simplicity itself .
Agree with mark LPG is all about saving money, also prefer older cars as you could play with timing/mixture etc-all these modern ECU's etc means its difficult/impossible to adjust anything
see, that is why forums are not very good to get informed Information from, If you want good information about an LPG conversion don't look on a forum, as most of the information is dealing with problems. there are so many conversions out there, DIY and professional that are running wthout problems.
do your homework and talk to people who have had a conversion and also talk to conversion companies.
if someone says they would rather go with an older car with carbs than a modern car, then they have had nothing but problems, and maybe only set things up themselves.
LPG systems have come a long way and work very well when installed and set up correctly, so before making your mind up, talk to some happy customers
if had any problems ..i would be posting on here asking ...other than the injectors wearing out at 15,000 non.
other than not being able to tune it up safely without someone sitting at the side of you with a laptop.non.
it does (rover 420) 27 -29 mpg on a run on lpg.........41mpg on petrol ...drives exactly on petrol as on gas bar the mpg
and thats it .its tuned .best as i can get out of it.. and its been tuned by a professional installer too.
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last open loop car (1.8 sierra) i had did 38 mpg on petrol and 39 mpg on LPG on a run...i did some alterations to it to benefit LPG .put the timing to suit .put hardened valve seats in it ...had to tune it for winter ..and summer .because it ran differently ......not as sophisticated as the rover .flat heads ..no pent roof or twin cams.or lambda..or injectors...but far more scope for getting the best out of it as far as mpg is concerned .
Mark, strange that the Rover doesn't want to play.
My Omega delivers about 10% lower economy on LPG. Well, it would do if I drove it the same on LPG as I did on petrol Trouble I found is that because it's cheaper to run I find my right foot is considerably heavier now
I agree with Mark, it seems to me like it's only worth doing if it's a diy job and you can get the parts at reasonable cost.
For myself, because the value of my car is possibly less than the cost of a complete kit, then it's even more important to get the best deal!
Avoid ESGI kits because nobody seems to fit them, so you cannot get them certificated so insuring your car afterwards is almost impossible or at best very expensive.
Learn from my mistake, fit a common kit and make your life easier.
Re: ESGI kits. I've bought a DIY kit from Yorkshire autogas, to fit to a Mitsi Legnum VR4 (280bhp 4wd) V6 engine. It is ESGI so at least one fitter is using them. As part of the deal you take it back after and he sets up the running and certifies the install. Seemed to know his beans. What the MPG will be like yet i do not know, will get back on that one.
The guy I bought it from www.autogas-lpg.co.uk says he fits kits but he ignores my emails. Initiall he said he could check it and give me a safety report but my insurer will not accept this as it needs to be fitted by a 'professional'. so I need a certificate so show the installer is taking responsability. He has now gone quiet on me.
I now wish I would have chosen a popular kit and not this cheap kit.
Do not worry about a diy install and insurance , there will always be someone who will insure you. Admiral told me a uklpg/lpga certificate would be ok after a diy install. Have you tried companys that specialise in modified cars?
What we should remember is that cars which are pro install or diy that are uklpg certified will have the record of this sent to the uklpg by the inspector for entry on the register of converted cars which the insurance industry will soon be be using for their records.
One of our cars is a pro install and one is diy by myself. When I checked the uklpg register I was surprised that the diy one had been entered and the pro install had not. I have sent the pro install certificate off to be entered.
What kit do you have? Most people on here have been pleased with stuff from Autogas -lpg. The kit's from Yorkshire Autogas are a good bet too as they set it up for you and certificate it.
yeah he's good at that, replies to emails before you buy but after that you get no replies.
i only use him for stuff i know i dont need any help with, filters, hoses, clip etc
I bought some bits from this guy for my install, good prices i thought, but wanted to check when they were being dispatched, if you look on their 'about us' page or something similar on thier site it has a pic of thier work van with a phone number on the side.. This makes it somewat easier to get hold of him!! Corin
Trouble I found is that because it's cheaper to run I find my right foot is considerably heavier now 
