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waveyr02
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Is this normal

#1 Post by waveyr02 »

Hello all, new to lpg so i was wondering if it is normal that when i fill up with gas that i can smell it inside the car quite strongly. I have got a can of leak detector and sprayed around the filler and fill pipe as far as i can with no apparent leaks. I only put 30 ltrs in so i dont think it is over full, the smell does go away after a while its only when i fill up.

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#2 Post by Tubbs »

Err no, you really shouldn't be able to smell gas, spray around the tank valve too and see if its something like a PRV not seating properly. And up the front, just everywhere basically.

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#3 Post by rossko »

Is the rear of the filler "inside" the car (perhaps hidden behind trim), or more underneath/exposed to the elements?

It is normal for a pssht of gas to be released when uncoupling the fill gun; obviously with the right wind and an open window that can get a smell in the car.
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#4 Post by waveyr02 »

The filler is on the outside, but the fill pipe (which is a solid type)comes in to the car for about 2 foot going down and then out to the tank underneath , its in a compartment where the jack lives on a mpv. Not sure what a prv is, another thing is i can smell gas when actually filling :shock: the filler pipe at the station does seem a bit of a loose fit to me but like i said i am new to this. Thanks Simon.

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#5 Post by rossko »

waveyr02 wrote:The filler is on the outside, but the fill pipe (which is a solid type)comes in to the car
Assuming we're talking usual bayonet filler (no adaptor being used), the back of the filler should be sealed with a rubber cover overall - no pipe joint visible
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#6 Post by waveyr02 »

Yes it is normal bayonet and rubber is in place, so i got the wife to press the button while i was inside with spray, Yikes ! bubbles around pipe where rubber is. I think i might fit a new filler from what i have read on here there should be a non return in the tank so will it be safe to remove filler without lpg escapeing ? also it seems there should be a sleeve around the fill pipe to send any leak out of the car (the rubber is bigger than the pipe and dosent clamp properly). Thanks Simon.

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#7 Post by Tubbs »

You should have a manual shut off on the tank, a little gnurled nut or a yellow lever. If its a single hole type valve anyway.
Belt and braces, shut the tank off first.
You will still loose a bit of gas, whats in the pipe between the filler and the valve.

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#8 Post by waveyr02 »

Ive read that there would be a shut off but im not sure if i have a bodge job here, the tank is single hole (with access to valves from top) but the tank is underneath where spare was so cant access the valves without taking tank off ! is it upside down ?.

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#9 Post by rossko »

Nope - it's a poor but not incorrect choice of tank style. Given that not all styles are available in all sizes, it may well have been the best compromise at the time.

Not all valves have a manual shutoff at all, I wouldn't worry much about that.

Sounds like you have a leaky pipe union at back of filler, compunded by a rubber boot that doesn't seal either. Look closely to see if the boot is split or torn, or even if the hose is rubber it might be rotten and leaky.
Pull back the boot and undo the pipe union a half turn - gas will spill, but should stop in a few minutes. If you can't find anything else amiss, it may just need retightening.

If you're at all worried, take it to a pro. Leaks inside cars are dangerous because the gas collects in the wells and spaces.
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#10 Post by Clifford Pope »

When I park by the LPG pump I can smell whether someone has used it recently.
When I remove the nozzle after filling it gives a blast of gas up my sleeve.
I walk over to pay at the kiosk and when I raise my hand to tap in the PIN I get a whiff of gas emerging.
When I get back in the car I can still smell the gas lingering around the back by the filler, and when I get in the smell follows me because my sleeve still smells of traces of gas.

It seems normal to me. A petrol smell lingers too.

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