Getting LPG fitted in Poland........should I??

[Gilbertd]

I'm not saying that there are no large engined vehicles running on LPG, what I am saying is that they are in the minority. In the UK it is mostly large engined cars that are converted so that it makes running a big engined car affordable. It is much rarer for people to convert a smaller engined car. Why would you want to? Why spend the money converting a car that is already cheap to run? Look on eBay.co.uk at the LPG powered cars for sale. It is all 3 or 4 litre vehicles, very few with an engine size of less than 2 litres.

I would suspect that if you looked at the average engine size on converted cars you would find that the vast majority in the UK have engines larger than 2 litres but in Poland it is the other way round with the majority being under 2 litres. Consequently installers here are more familiar with large engines and Polish installers are more familiar with smaller ones. I'm not knocking Polish installers or kit, what I am saying is that they won't be dealing with big engines anything like as regularly as installers here.

[m_unawar]

GO FOR IT.

I always wanted to travel across Europe , So in July this year I took the voyage to Latvia(Mrs is Latvian). When I was in Latvia and got few quotes the price was so good that I could not resist and got it done for £530 with Stag 400. Poland is Mecca for LPG I have never seen LPG more popular and more readily available then any where else.

Installation done in ONE day with all necessary paper work which was accepted by DVLA. I still haven't had any problem (Touch Wood). I have done 5000 miles up till now of which 2500 was on way back to UK no difference while running on LPG.
Never Missed a beat. I know warranty is a bit of issue but with the price like that I can take the risk, I have recovered the more the half the money in fuel already so hey you cant complain.

If you interested then PM me and I will give you the details of installer in Riga Latvia but I am sure you would be able to find some one in Poland.

[Gilbertd]

What car was that on? I think the main point here was most were in favour of getting the car done in Poland until it was mentioned that the car was a 5.7 litre Jeep. The majority of cars that are converted in Eastern Europe (my missus is from Minsk, Belarus, across the EU and out the other side!) appear to be smaller engined ones and my concern was that the installers wouldn't be familiar with something like that. It's one thing being the guinea pig when your installer is just down the road but a different matter when he's over a thousand miles away.

You must have taken the long route back from Riga, I've done Minsk and back in 2,800 miles and Riga isn't much further (and all inside the EU too so no messing with visas and the most pedantic border guards I've ever met!).

[m_unawar]

I did get lost thanks to Tom Tom europe. Went to Rosja little part Of Russia between poland and lithunia. My car is Vectra 2.2 Elite. But we did wonder offcourse for little sight seeing other wise its 1678 miles one way door to door.

Is it really that big difference engines. Mechanics would be same wouldnt.

[Gilbertd]

It isn't the difference in engines but the difference in power output. From what I understand most of the Polish systems are like the Italian systems were a few years ago. The kits can handle an engine with a power output of up to around 150-200 bhp after which they run out of steam and can't keep up with demand. This isn't an insurmountable problem but can be more difficult if the installer is not used to dealing with this sort of thing.

How did you get on with the border crossing from EU into a CIS country (Kaliningrad/Konigsberg)?

[m_unawar]

I can see your point. Well hour waiting only to be told to turn arround and go tfe other way 300 mile detour. Utter waist of time. My advice look at the map and study it to avoid disappointment(lesson learnt).

Country polish roads are not the best as you may agree!!!! Once the A2 (between warsaw and berlin) is finish i would love to do it again.

[rysiontko]

Try A4 at the bottom part of germany - you can go up to Krakow. The best part is you will avoid traffic jam at the berliner ring.

[m_unawar]

Try A4 at the bottom part of germany - you can go up to Krakow. The best part is you will avoid traffic jam at the berliner ring.

Cheers Rysiontko. I will remember it next time.

[Gilbertd]

Country polish roads are not the best as you may agree!!!! Once the A2 (between warsaw and berlin) is finish i would love to do it again.

I took the E30 for the whole route as it is the main Dusseldorf, Berlin, Warsaw, Minsk road (and continues on to Moscow). It's pretty depressing joining a motorway in Germany to have the Garmin satnav tell you to turn right in 498 miles! Coming off the German Autobahn and crossing into Poland was a bit of a culture shock. Rutted single carriageway with hundreds of trucks on it until I reached the new bit of motorway they have built. The only problem I had then was when I reached the end of the new bit. I wasn't sure if I had bypassed Warsaw or not so had no idea if I needed to follow signs for Warsaw or go in the opposite direction. The Garmin got totally confused and had me turn round, go back to the last exit, come off the road, turn round and head back the way I'd just come! If I hadn't made a decision to ignore it and follow my nose, I'd have been going back and forth for ever!. I couldn't even work out which way was East from the position of the sun as it was raining. In fact, it's been raining every time I've done the journey. Everyone tells me that Warsaw is a beautiful city and it probably is but not when it's covered in grey skies and slinging it down with rain......

But it could be worse, try the roads in Romania!

[m_unawar]

Country polish roads are not the best as you may agree!!!! Once the A2 (between warsaw and berlin) is finish i would love to do it again.

I took the E30 for the whole route as it is the main Dusseldorf, Berlin, Warsaw, Minsk road (and continues on to Moscow). It's pretty depressing joining a motorway in Germany to have the Garmin satnav tell you to turn right in 498 miles! Coming off the German Autobahn and crossing into Poland was a bit of a culture shock. Rutted single carriageway with hundreds of trucks on it until I reached the new bit of motorway they have built. The only problem I had then was when I reached the end of the new bit. I wasn't sure if I had bypassed Warsaw or not so had no idea if I needed to follow signs for Warsaw or go in the opposite direction. The Garmin got totally confused and had me turn round, go back to the last exit, come off the road, turn round and head back the way I'd just come! If I hadn't made a decision to ignore it and follow my nose, I'd have been going back and forth for ever!. I couldn't even work out which way was East from the position of the sun as it was raining. In fact, it's been raining every time I've done the journey. Everyone tells me that Warsaw is a beautiful city and it probably is but not when it's covered in grey skies and slinging it down with rain......

But it could be worse, try the roads in Romania!

Hahahah I know the feeling exactly. Auto bahns I love them .. I did 120 MPH/200kph Top speed arround with wind on the back and accelator to the floor, it was unbeliveable. Anyway I know what you mean and funny enough it was chucking it down as well when I drove.

I know what you mean for that diversion from Warsaw and A2 it is confusing but My Tom Tom Europe seem to find his route.