Has the Oz Govt subsidy held back LPG Technology?

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binder4
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Has the Oz Govt subsidy held back LPG Technology?

#1 Post by binder4 »

Obviously I'm in Australia.
I read these forums with interest, one of the things that really stands out is that in the UK, virtually all your LPG systems appear to be multipoint injection systems.

These seem to be very rare in Australia, most LPG conversions I have seen are single point systems.

I'm wondering if this is because of the local Labor Governments LPG subsidy program.

About 5 or 6 years ago, when all the carbon hysteria started, they decided to offer very generous subsidies for motorists to convert to LPG.

http://www.ausindustry.gov.au/Energyand ... /home.aspx

Whilst it has recently been cut back to $1250 Aus, originally it was generous enough that if you bought a bare bones single point system, the subsidy basically paid for the conversion, you got it for free.

Now I am wondering if the reason we mostly only have single point systems here is because if thats what you could get for free, thats what most people bought, a combination of what most installers pushed, as well as peoples natural tendency to go for the cheap options.

What do people think?

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Re: Has the Oz Govt subsidy held back LPG Technology?

#2 Post by woody »

Hi matey, welcome to the fold.

Lots of things are relevent here,firstly i would say that the type of vehicles that you guys are generally converting can be converted with a single point system without any problems , ie , big capacity 6 or 8 cylinder engines with cast alloy manifolds.So if you fit an Impco or OHG type system it will work faultlessly.
I also know that the Aussies have also had Sprint gas for a while which is a rebadged OMVL system , there is light at the end of the tunnel though Prins have 2 distibutors one in Perth and the other one somewhere near Sidney i think form memory.

You guys are lucky your government can see the benfits of LPG...ours....well you read the papers i guess.

Are you a Ford man or a GM....lol sorry could,nt resist.


Oh and i love the Fosters adverts ....classic

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Re: Has the Oz Govt subsidy held back LPG Technology?

#3 Post by binder4 »

Generally prefer Asian cars, much better build quality than the Oz ones, (and they dont rust) but my Gas rig is a falcon, as you say, a big 6 for towing my boat.

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Re: Has the Oz Govt subsidy held back LPG Technology?

#4 Post by SimonHobson »

Main reason is emissions regulations. For new vehicles (in the EU), the ECU has to have very sensitive monitoring of various parameters and automatically compensate or otherwise act. So they will automatically adjust fuelling using the exhaust sensors, but if that doesn't correct things they will start doing things like : shut down a faulty cylinder (eg if it's not sparking), bring on the MIL (Malfunction Indicator Lamp), or go into some sort of "limp home" mode. They even have two exhaust sensors, one upstream and one downstream, so they can confirm correct operation of the (mandatory, expensive, fragile, and power and fuel sapping) catalytic converter that doesn't work properly in our climate anyway.

The one thing you can guarantee is that if you stick a single point mixer system on one of those then it won't fail to (at least) bring on the MIL. Hence we fit the expensive multipoint systems.
Multipoint systems also have the advantage of not sticking an airflow restriction (mixer ring) in your intake.
Land Rover 110 V8 LPG
Land Rover 90 petrol (no longer diseasel :D), still awaiting V8 & LPG
http://www.diy-lpg.co.uk

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