Leonardo, Voila Plus or Tartarini TEC97?

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whitelion58
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Leonardo, Voila Plus or Tartarini TEC97?

#1 Post by whitelion58 »

Hello again,
first, a bit of background, then some questions..
I am afflicted with a fondness for the Rover Sterling with Honda 2.7 V6 engines, and naturally use LPG to be able to afford the low 20's MPG.
I got my first one with a kit already installed - the Leonardo. I ran that for 30k miles with no probs at all. That was sold to make way for No2, to which I installed another Leonardo kit myself. This has racked up over 20k miles in less than a year, again with no probs. Neither car used any kind of flashlube, nor did they have any injector emulators.

I have now got yet another one, to run in parallel with No2 - the intention being to split the mileage between two cars. I have a choice of two second hand LPG kits I can fit to this one. I have a Voila Plus I removed from a 6 cyl Carlton, and that has the Pittagora emulator box.

I also have a TEC97 from a 4cyl Omega, again with a Pitagora emulator box.

So, the question is - which one is the preferred solution, and why? Or should I look for a Leonardo, as I have lots of experience with those now and know they suit this engine perfectly? ( Anyone got one to sell or swap??)

If I go for one of my kits, do I bother with the emulator, since the other cars don't appear to care?

What about availability of software to set the kits up?, since I do not have any I will need to obtain something ASAP.

Any thoughts or advice will be much appreciated.

Thanks.
Tim, Shropshire.

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#2 Post by Gilbertd »

The Voila seems to be a slightly simplified version of the Leonardo (see http://www.aeb.it/products/feedback-systems/voila and compare it with http://www.aeb.it/products/feedback-systems/leonardo ) and the TEC97 is much the same but older technology. I would suspect that any would work fine if properly installed and set up. If your chosen car will run without an emulator, then don't bother to fit one. My Saab 900 has a Leonardo and an emulator, whether it needs it or not I have no idea but I suspect it does or it wouldn't be there!

For Leo software, go to http://www.vogelsautogas.nl/documenten/ ... .3.1.0.zip

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#3 Post by whitelion58 »

Thanks for the reply - I guess it's going to be the Voila, as its the closest to the Leonardo I know a little about..
Cheers
Tim

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Re: Leonardo, Voila Plus or Tartarini TEC97?

#4 Post by SimonHobson »

whitelion58 wrote:If I go for one of my kits, do I bother with the emulator, since the other cars don't appear to care?
I assume the yellow wires (or something hanging off the blue wire) were used to cut the fuel in some way. On some 'basic' injection systems you can just cut the power to the ECU, or I've done mine by fitting a relay into the supply for the injectors.
Land Rover 110 V8 LPG
Land Rover 90 petrol (no longer diseasel :D), still awaiting V8 & LPG
http://www.diy-lpg.co.uk

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#5 Post by whitelion58 »

yes, the yeloow wire is spliced into the feed to the injectors, so they just get switched off when running on gas. Seems to work just fine.

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#6 Post by SimonHobson »

whitelion58 wrote:yes, the yeloow wire is spliced into the feed to the injectors, so they just get switched off when running on gas. Seems to work just fine.
Just be aware that the current handling ability of the yellow wires (and the relay in the ECU) is limited.
Land Rover 110 V8 LPG
Land Rover 90 petrol (no longer diseasel :D), still awaiting V8 & LPG
http://www.diy-lpg.co.uk

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