lpg not dropping price like petrol

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#81 Post by PEGASUS »

rossko wrote:
PEGASUS wrote:I have now switched back to petrol as it is now working out the same for me.
Well, you know your system isn't very well at all if it can't better 50% of the petrol mpg. Might be time to give in and let somebody sort it out?
No one in my area works on my system, software i got from Tinley Tech doesn`t adjust what i want. Since my engine rebuild the best i can get is 9mpg on lpg, petrol does 17mpg

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#82 Post by Active_Lad »

But surely it would be economical to drive (even on petrol) to someone who can fix it, even if they're not in the local area? It seems madness to have a system fitted that costs more to run than the fuel it intended to replace and then not use it. Even if it cost you a tank of petrol, it has to be worth it.
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#83 Post by johnnygas »

Maybe you could just peel back the carburation setting 5 or 10% and try to see if you get better MPG.

It's sounds like the nozzels are too big. Ideally you want the indicator on the main page to display "too small" as this gives good MPG and all the importers say don't worry about it reading "too small" it's only a guide and doesn't really matter.

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#84 Post by Heggsy »

They've just dropped the price at my local station by 3p down to 50.9p

It's just off J5 of the M61 (Westhoughton) if anyone is ever in need of LPG in that area.

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#85 Post by johnboy2 »

Don't mean to show off, but my local morrisons store has LPG for 49.9 a litre

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#86 Post by Stilletto_Rebel »

johnboy2 wrote:Don't mean to show off, but my local morrisons store has LPG for 49.9 a litre
Which Morrisons is that? The one in Barry?

It helps if you give the station's location... :roll:
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#87 Post by johnboy2 »

Ebbw Vale :roll: :roll:

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#88 Post by DanThe »

40p per litre as of Saturday last week

MMS gas, A5, Gailey, just off junction 12 M6

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#89 Post by Alpha Piper »

Greenaways at Launceston - BP Garage - have reduced their LPG price to 55.9ppl from 58.9ppl. Meanwhile BP at Roundswell in Barnstaple are charging 48.9ppl - WHY THE BIG DIFFERENCE ???? Thet are both BP garages buying from the same distributer !!!!! Needless to say I'm buying my £300 worth of LPG per month from Roundswell

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#90 Post by lebesset »

try asking who sets the price ; at most outlets they have no control ...for example I was recently at a shell franchise and was told that they had no control , shell changed the pump and price board electronically from their office...and just to prove the point shell changed the lpg price as I stood discussing the matter

with current world propane prices no reason it should be over 40p anywhere with the low level of tax in uk

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#91 Post by midnight »

The price of autogas may well have something to do with the price that domestic customers are being charged at the moment. By domestic customers I am refering to those who heat their homes with propane stored in bulk tanks. I was paying 0.36 ppl, but last month I got a letter fom Calorgas which stated that they were putting the cost of a litre up and that it would now cost 0.48 ppl. I dont even think that the vat was included. If so then that would make it about 0.50 ppl. Vat being 5% on domestic propane. It would be cheaper if I slung their 1400 litre tank into the back of my van and took it down to the local lpg filling station. Domestic propane is supposed to be significantly cheaper than autogas propane. In April of next year, new rules will come into force which will allow domestic customers to change suppliers more easily and without the need to have the storage tank replaced for one supplied by the new supplier. Flowgas has been actively renewing their contracts with their customers that have or were due to expire befor next April. They have been trying to get their customers to sign up and to pay around 0.48 ppl not including vat for between two and five years. You may not have to look to far for the answers as to the cost of autogas if you bare all this in mind. I would'nt expect any price drops in autogas until after next April. Infact you may well see a big price increase to expand the gap between the domestic lpg and the autogas lpg.

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#92 Post by tucker1 »

Bolton Bottled Gas - 43ppl today and that's Flogas.

That's now 1p cheaper than when I converted in Jan 08. Petrol was 99.9p then, so it's still probably a few pence above where it should be if it ought to be consistent with other fuel prices.

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#93 Post by Alpha Piper »

December 9th 2008:
Carkeel Roundabout, Saltash 51.9 ppl
BP at Roundswell, Barnstaple 48.9 ppl
GREENAWAYS BP, Launceston a staggering 55.9 ppl

Greenaways have constantly been the dearest for LPG for the last 18 months. They must be building up their pension fund at the expense of mine. I spend £300 a month on LPG and whilst businesses have to make a profit there's no need to employ the "Dick Turpin" method....at least he had the decency to wear a mask !!

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#94 Post by SAD199 »

Midnight, can you provide a link to where it talks about how the rules are changing for domestic propane. I've got a 1200 ltr tank under my front lawn and the last fill was 47ppl. Should be cheaper in the next few months but I've just had a few storage heaters installed to augment (and let me choose) the heating system of preference.
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#95 Post by lebesset »

that's interesting SAD199

industrial grade propane [ which is what we all use in reality ] produces approx 7 KwH /litre

so what will an equivalent amount of energy cost you on economy 7 ?

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#96 Post by lebesset »

alpha piper , have you tried asking your friends in launceston who decides on the price ; wouldn't be at all surprised if it wasn't BP setting it electronically , no local control
try asking the attendant ...he/she will know if the prices get changed from afar

btw , I also know how you pronounce launceston :D

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#97 Post by Active_Lad »

lawn-ston ?
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#98 Post by midnight »

SAD199 wrote:Midnight, can you provide a link to where it talks about how the rules are changing for domestic propane. I've got a 1200 ltr tank under my front lawn and the last fill was 47ppl. Should be cheaper in the next few months but I've just had a few storage heaters installed to augment (and let me choose) the heating system of preference.
Thanks.
Hi SAD199,
The new rules should be coming into force on 13 April 2009. The main change that will affect both the customer and the supplier will be the ease at which the customer can change the supplier. The new supplier will be allowed to buy the customers tank from the old supplier. There should be no need for the old supplier to remove their tank as there was before. This is the link to the competitions commission enquiry:
http://www.competition-commission.org.u ... /index.htm
When you sign a new contract with the new supplier, then the maximum length of time that that contract can last for will be two years. Currently contracts can tie you to a supplier for upto five years. I am a member of another forum which disscuses the price of fuel. i.e. electricity, gas, lpg and oil to mention a few. If it will help then here is the link:
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/for ... .html?f=78
I hope that this infomation helps you.

Best wishes.

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#99 Post by MarkJones »

That's not the only thing that is changing.

Central heating oil is to replaced with red diesel...at least in the north west UK.

So anyone that has a boiler the burns kerosene.......will now have to upgrade or change jets....or worse, the boiler !!!

Why this change is being made ....

Far as i could find out ..kerosene cracker at Stanlow causing/giving problems, too hard and expensive to fix....and ...it's to save the oil company's more money ..by only supplying one product not two.
thereby giving share holdings a boost

MMMMMMMMM...me wonders how long before they stop supplying LPG !!

What with other things that are happening, it's getting like the old USSR here.

all the best.markj

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#100 Post by midnight »

MarkJones wrote:That's not the only thing that is changing.

Central heating oil is to replaced with red diesel...at least in the north west UK.

So anyone that has a boiler the burns kerosene.......will now have to upgrade or change jets....or worse, the boiler !!!

Why this change is being made ....

Far as i could find out ..kerosene cracker at Stanlow causing/giving problems, too hard and expensive to fix....and ...it's to save the oil company's more money ..by only supplying one product not two.
thereby giving share holdings a boost

MMMMMMMMM...me wonders how long before they stop supplying LPG !!

What with other things that are happening, it's getting like the old USSR here.

all the best.markj

I've heard of people using jet fuel for their boiler as its cheap, it may be an alternative for you. Red diesel is about .50 ppl where I am in Wisbech. That would make it an expensive fuel for domestic use.

Best wishes.

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