propane butane ratio

Post Reply
Message
Author
retspeej
New member
Posts: 36
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:47 am

propane butane ratio

#1 Post by retspeej » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:25 am

The percentage of butane varies depending on now much the gas companies want to dump that week.
Is there anywhere you can get pure propane? The only source I can see is "barbeque gas", which
would mean rigging up an adapter to fill your autogas tank from the bottle.
Or fitting the gas bottles in your vehicle (which would surely upset the insurance company).

Gilbertd
Advanced Member
Posts: 7988
Joined: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:00 am
Location: Peterborough

Re: propane butane ratio

#2 Post by Gilbertd » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:35 am

I assume you are in Oz or NZ as you are posting in that section but can only tell you how it works in the UK. You can buy pure Propane from a gas supplier but, as you say, it comes in bottles. You can use and adapter and a pump to transfer from bottles to your car but you would need to invert the bottle as the take off is for vapour and not liquid. It won't be particularly quick and, as the bottles have been refilled many times, you can end up with quite a lot of heavy ends going into your tank too.

But why do you need pure Propane? Autogas sold in the UK is supposedly 100% Propane although it probably does contain a small proportion of Butane. In Europe, Autogas is often a mix of Propane and Butane at anything from a 90/10 to 50/50 ratio. Butane is denser than Propane so you get more weight per litre and as the stoichiometric ratio is by weight then you will get better economy running a mixture than you will on pure Propane. The stoichiometric ratio for perfect combustion is slightly higher too so you will actually use less of it. The only downsides are that it has a much higher boiling point, around 0 degrees C, so won't vaporise at low temperatures and has a lower Octane rating. So unless you are in sub-zero temperatures, doubtful in Oz, or you have tuned your engine to take advantage of the 113 RON Octane rating of Propane, you will gain nothing by running pure Propane over a Propane/Butane mix.
'96 Saab 900XS, AEB Leo, sold
'93 Range Rover 4.2 LSE, Lovato LovEco, sold
'98 Ex-Police Range Rover 4.0, Singlepoint AEB Leo, my daily motor
'97 Range Rover 4.0SE, eGas multipoint, a project.....

Proud to be a member of the YCHJCYA2PDTHFH club.

supercharged_buddy
New member
Posts: 24
Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:12 am

Re: propane butane ratio

#3 Post by supercharged_buddy » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:51 pm

You can buy straight propane from Supagas, usually cheaper than the servos too.

IIRC LPG is a 80/20 mixture here.

Post Reply