Doing the LPG conversion; My full report

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Re: Doing the LPG conversion; My full report

#201 Post by demonicwillow » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:30 am

I went awfully quiet too ... got banned along with the spammers by mistake and all my posts have gone, but Im back :lol:

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Re: Doing the LPG conversion; My full report

#202 Post by Toolless » Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:17 pm

After replacing the inlet manifold sanwitch plate and injector rail and new gasket
The leak is bad another for the car not to be able to run
The car will be off to the scrap yard tomorrow

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#203 Post by Gilbertd » Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:04 pm

Along with the LPG system hopefully.......

All this has proved is that you shouldn't play with things you don't understand. Had you known how the car worked in the first place and learnt how the LPG system worked, you might have succeeded.

No doubt now though you'll tell everyone that you had to scrap the car because of the LPG system, not the fact that you buggered it up because you didn't know what you were doing.
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Re: Doing the LPG conversion; My full report

#204 Post by Toolless » Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:08 pm

Gilbertd wrote:Along with the LPG system hopefully.......

All this has proved is that you shouldn't play with things you don't understand. Had you known how the car worked in the first place and learnt how the LPG system worked, you might have succeeded.

No doubt now though you'll tell everyone that you had to scrap the car because of the LPG system, not the fact that you buggered it up because you didn't know what you were doing.
Fcuk you ya prick
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Toolless wrote:Also
After I have sorted the above I'm going to start drilling on my inlet manifold of my engine for my screws to go into from the gas lpg
And was wondering how you think my engine would run with 4 x 5mm holes in my inlet manifold for a few days until I get them threaded
It won't. Why not do what everyone else does? Take the manifold off, drill it, tap it and fit the nipples. Then put it back on and connect it to your injectors with the flexible low pressure LPG hose that Tinley Tech will by then have supplied you with?

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Re: Doing the LPG conversion; My full report

#205 Post by john_d » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:02 pm

Toolless wrote:After replacing the inlet manifold sanwitch plate and injector rail and new gasket
The leak is bad another for the car not to be able to run
The car will be off to the scrap yard tomorrow
why did you replace the plate and rail?

new gasgets would have been all that was required





Toolless wrote:Fcuk you ya prick
thats not very nice concidering the man was trying to help.
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#206 Post by demonicwillow » Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:48 am

Toolless wrote:Fcuk you ya prick
Pot calling kettle black I think !!!

You know after reading this thread, I think it SHOULD be made a sticky, simply because it may deter anyone who hasnt the slightest idea of how an engine is put together, not to meddle with lpg !!! the amount of time and money wasted in this project only to just bin it because someone with a set of spanners thinks they can successfully install an lpg system is incredible, cant even repair and replace an inlet manifold even though it wasnt busted !!! and would have been cheaper and less time consuming to have a pro install a new system, cost of outlay would have begun to be recouped already.

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#207 Post by Howie1954 » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:16 pm

You couldn't make this story up could you. I didn't think people like this existed. I'm an engineer and researched before installing my system. The time seems well spent as I now have a system that works better than I expected. Maybe the advantage is that I ( like Gilbertd and others ) know the differance between a spanner ( scouse sarcasm. Toolless comes across as a bit of a spanner) and a tool for tightening nuts and bolts. :lol:
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Re: Doing the LPG conversion; My full report

#208 Post by Chang » Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:19 pm

I found this thread by accident but so glad I did. I have not laughed so much since reading about scam baiters winding up Nigerian 419 scammers. I don't know if I should admire Toolless for his sheer determination to do this conversion against all the odds stacked up against him, most of which would have easily been overcome if he had followed the advise he asked for and been given instead of persisting in doing things his way, or criticise him for even thinking of fitting such a potentially dangerous system with such little of the knowledge and aptitude needed. Even if it is a wind up it should be a sticky for the entertainment value. It's a pity he never finished the project but I expect his Escort would have oxidised to dust long before it ever ran on lpg. As I also live in Carlisle and could have ended up being a victim of this mobile bomb then maybe it is a blessing in disguise. Good luck Toolless with your future projects but if they involve lpg then please get someone competent to help you as a car full of gas is a lot more dangerous than you appear to think it is.

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#209 Post by davewoods » Sun May 29, 2011 9:37 am

This thread is a wake up call and should be a sticky!
Ive ran lpg for over ten years,taken it off refitted,but today i do i fresh install on a carb v8 engine.He really believed hecould fot this,and boy how he was wrong,But what if ive convinced myself i can do it and i cannot?
So ive ran through the basic in my head again as a checklist,
Tank over rear axle as much as possible (common sense) and airbox to be positioned about 2 oclock.
6mm pipe to be clipped every 500mm,and at least 100mm away from exhaust or anything that moves.
T pieces put between heater hoses for flow to inline the vapouriser
Coil pipe as approaches filter soleniod
Fuse every soleniod,
Check with washing up liquid for leaks before switch on and during swirch on.
Timing 6 degress retard..
ThaT sounds right????...........................doesnt it ????????????

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Re: Doing the LPG conversion; My full report

#210 Post by PAWEABMW » Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:26 am

Ledgendary laughed my ass off....then i realized that this is only the tip of the iceberg there are prob loads of fools like this all over the country....well done to all the pros who tried to help this sorry chap out ,total professionalism...i soon stopped laughing when i realized i'm only half way through my own conversion goodness know what tommoro will bring...lol

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#211 Post by Gilbertd » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:14 am

I'm almost glad this threads been resurrected. Some forums have a post of the week or post of the month section for the ones that shouldn't be forgotten (even if only to give everyone a good laugh), this one really does deserve a post of the Century award.......
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Re: Doing the LPG conversion; My full report

#212 Post by RobTheShirt » Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:16 pm

Come back Clueless. We miss you ;o)

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#213 Post by john_d » Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:21 pm

RobTheShirt wrote:Come back Clueless. We miss you ;o)
he's still here under a different username imo.
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#214 Post by Gilbertd » Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:46 pm

Who is it then? c'mon, spill the beans!!
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Re: Doing the LPG conversion; My full report

#215 Post by PAWEABMW » Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:38 pm

rossko wrote:
You might like to sort out the smashed/melted vapour box before you go to too much trouble with the tank alignment.

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Well a holes like you, sure ant one of them
I bet your the king of ass hole that trolls the net all day long criticizing everyone ells for making an effort like myself coz you have nothing better to do with your time/ life because you are jellios of thoughts that put the hard work in to get a resalt
hypocrite!

Now that the Mupits are out of the way its back to business



The tractor shop only had 3 nipples so the 4th I will have to use one of the 2 remaining unbroken nipples
My original gasket tore up and at first I did not think it was that important to have one
And now it probaly blown off with the wind to Africa or some where


I still have an air leek and I think its from the inlet manifold even after I added the blue tube
So Looks like a new gasket is in order
Only problem is the car shop in town cant get hold of one and the ford deals want 30.00 quid plus vat
Graham said he once made a gasket out of a corn flake box and it did the job
But I want a second opinion on it?


Am I right in thinking that this is the same for having the injector too far away from the inlet manifold jets
That it will run like a bagh of shit if the injectors are not close enough to the jets

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#216 Post by classicswede » Fri May 09, 2014 11:31 am

Could this thread be moved to the bodged conversions gallery?
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#217 Post by john_d » Fri May 09, 2014 11:54 am

classicswede wrote:Could this thread be moved to the bodged conversions gallery?
the gallery is just for pics and not threads sadly :(
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#218 Post by Gilbertd » Fri May 09, 2014 1:22 pm

But it's good it's been bumped, almost worth spend an hour or so having another read through it.......
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#219 Post by john_d » Fri May 09, 2014 1:27 pm

Gilbertd wrote:But it's good it's been bumped, almost worth spend an hour or so having another read through it.......
i was hoping it was toolless updating us on his handy work, disappointed to see it was Dai, im contemplating banning him for a week for giving me false hope :lol:
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#220 Post by LPGC » Fri May 09, 2014 4:11 pm

Would love to know who people think Toolless is now... Someone please PM me, I won't let on! :lol:

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