Bulk tank for home heating AND autogas

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Re: Bulk tank for home heating AND autogas

#41 Post by rich r » Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:34 pm

Gilbertd wrote: I'm on oil and the only downside is the gauges are no more accurate that the average car LPG gas gauge. You know it's getting low but aren't sure just how low as the difference in reading between having 100 litres left and 10 litres left is pretty marginal.
Our previous house was on oil - at this time of year the level of frost on the plastic tank gave a reasonable idea of the level. In the summer we used a broom handle with lines scratched into it - as like you say, the ultrasonic Watchman sensors can be a bit approximate!
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Re: Bulk tank for home heating AND autogas

#42 Post by Gilbertd » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:04 pm

I've got a steel tank with a weighted float on a bit of string that turns a dial gauge and measures the amount above the bottom of the tank. Problem is that the bottom of the float hits the bottom of the tank when there's still a good 50 litres left so when it says it's empty it's somewhere between 60-70 litres and naff all......
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Re: Bulk tank for home heating AND autogas

#43 Post by DodgeRover » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:33 pm

This is looking a bit of a non starter, one company is insisting tanks with both a liquid and vapour take off don't exist! Current prices locally seem to be around 36ppl inc 5% vat as heating fuel.
A rough calculation on my part says
32ppl ex vat
31.6 per kg duty so roughly 16ppl duty
20% vat on fuel + duty 9.6ppl
All up 57.6ppl duty paid nearest forecourt is about 62ppl when it's back in stock and I have to buy my own tank, pump and meter, I doubt I would be ahead by the time the tank needed another 10 year test :(

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Re: Bulk tank for home heating AND autogas

#44 Post by Gilbertd » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:11 pm

Tanks with a liquid take off do exist but aren't that common. Your sums suggest much as I thought. While it's feasible it isn't really a big money saver. Probably worth it if you don't have a local filling station but if there is somewhere local, or somewhere that you regularly pass, then probably not worth the hassle.
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Re: Bulk tank for home heating AND autogas

#45 Post by LPGC » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:06 am

Gilbertd wrote:Tanks with a liquid take off do exist but aren't that common. Your sums suggest much as I thought. While it's feasible it isn't really a big money saver. Probably worth it if you don't have a local filling station but if there is somewhere local, or somewhere that you regularly pass, then probably not worth the hassle.
Same thoughts here.

On other forums/threads I'm talking with people who reckon LPG isn't available within a 30 minute drive of their home and the nearest places to fill with LPG charge 70ppL. I suggested a bulk tank at home could make sense for such people if they were to run an LPG car and that they're likely to have space for a bulk tank - They have space to park vehicles on their property because they currently run or are considering running EVs and have to park EVs on their property to charge them.
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Re: Bulk tank for home heating AND autogas

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Re: Bulk tank for home heating AND autogas

#47 Post by DodgeRover » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:16 pm

bendyone wrote:This is what you want

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LPG-Tank-Pum ... 0005.m1851
Plus another £1k for a meter, that takes some getting back even saving 10ppl

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Re: Bulk tank for home heating AND autogas

#48 Post by CNG » Thu May 24, 2018 9:13 pm

Been there, done that I'm afraid. Heating a house off grid via LPG is very expensive, simply because there's really only two suppliers, Flogas & Calor and they've got you by the...

You'd think a tank would see returns via the back-route, - low-price LPG for motor use. Only when you do the numbers... You lease you tank or have to buy it at a crazy price, and if you own it, they won't always fill it.

With a large house, oil or LPG was just too darn dear. I had 21 rads and a draugthy period home, so coal paid for itself (via a Dowling Sumo Boiler) in under 4 years. It cost nearer £8,000 to put in, flues and all, but off-grid LPG was that pricey, I had to do soemthing. Sadly, coal won't run a car, so easily.

These days, and moved, I have mains gas, and run the car off that, and yes, that is viable. Very. But LPG off you own tank, sorry, doesn't work. Just not viable. I have to say, I would never consider a house without mains gas again.

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