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BRC Plug and Drive Software

#1 Post by ZiggyB » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:57 pm

Hi all,
Not been on for a bit but on the scrounge, possibly!
We have recently replaced my partners MG Ztt with an E46 328 BMW with a BRC Plug and Drive system which was fitted at the end of 2017.
I'm trying to remap the system as it changes to gas at too high a temp and runs poorly once in open loop.
I have the lead and have downloaded all the latest available software I can find on the net (Version 3.08.02).
The problem I have is all I can access is the utility tab, the other 3 tabs are blank.
Looking at the controller ID it is showing as DE817021 and looking at the software programs available in the files this only goes up to DE817010 which I think is the problem.
Has any body got the very latest software version? I have seen a version 3.1 stated on the net but I can't find anywhere to download it from.
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Julian

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Re: BRC Plug and Drive Software

#2 Post by LPGC » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:26 am

TinleyTech are the new BRC importers, I reckon they will give you a copy of the correct software.
If various versions of Plug N Drive software doesn't work with your system the more recent BRC calibration tool (software) might.
What interface are you using though? The only interface sure to work is the proper BRC branded interface.

Much better now TinleyTech are the importers, the old importers tried to run the BRC scene as a closed shop... which won't have helped their sales, which is probably why they went under. I did warn them! Apparently I was the only installer not to pay them lots of money (to be part of their closed shop) who they would supply and allow access to software downloads etc to. Probably because I fixed BRC problems when BRC guys couldn't.

Still one closed shop - Prins VSI2. Similar story to the old BRC story... Closed shop members stick VSI2 on customer vehicles, if those vehicles don't then run properly the customer only has the closed shop members to turn to and they don't always manage to sort problems (and nobody in the trade will be surprised Prins dealers have problems with tech). Sure I could sort problems but I'm not part of the closed shop so I can't. Closed shop is probably also the reason for slow sales of Prins Liquimax, which might otherwise really take off.

I really don't see the point of Prins' closed shop. It could only ever really be about quality over quantity if it went as they planned... But if that's the plan it doesn't seem to be working and it doesn't seem to have been working for a very long time. It will never work if (let's just say if..) the closed shop network doesn't go out of their way to learn to be very good all round LPG conversion specialists and fully understand the tech but some of the closed shop spend more time running MOT tests and fitting clutches, follow instructions without fully understanding what they're doing and phone for tech assistance if there are problems.. they don't seem to have a good reputation for sorting LPG stuff. And meanwhile the closed shop excludes the likes of me with really good understanding, really good well earned reputation at sorting all types of LPG systems on all types and brands including Prins VSI1... and all the BRC stuff. Last time I spoke to the most recent Prins importer was not long after VSI2 had been introduced so not more than just a few years ago, the conversation was another eye opener for just how out of touch they are with tech. They explained to me that the VSI2 ECU was capable of all sorts of new functionality but it soon became apparent that they didn't know that most other brand ECUs had had all the same functionality and a lot more functionality besides for many years (they were particularly excited about being able to switch individual cylinders back to petrol and the ability to calibrate for rpm as well as for load... and seemed to think this functionality was unique to VSI2!). They said they had had a car with another brand LPG system in for repair, a car that had run great on LPG for several years but they couldn't find what was wrong with it.. and because they couldn't find what was wrong with it (their lack of diagnosis skills, their lack of understanding and their fault) they deemed the full LPG system on that vehicle unfit for purpose, advised the owner his LPG system was @!## and advised he let them fit VSI2 instead. They told me what parts they removed... the parts list was suited to that vehicle and was capable of just as good results as VSI2 if only sorted by an installer who knew what he was doing rather than looked at by them.
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Re: BRC Plug and Drive Software

#3 Post by ZiggyB » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:34 pm

Hi Simon,
Thanks for the reply.
I'll drop Tinley Tech an email and see if they'll supply the software.
It looks as if the BRC software is now for free general use as the later versions of the software don't need a key.
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Re: BRC Plug and Drive Software

#4 Post by LPGC » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:46 pm

No probs Julian.

Most BRC software hasn't needed a key for a long time but official software downloads were restricted to the closed shop when BRCGB had the reigns.

The last time I installed the most recent software (called 'BRC calibration tool', which is compatible with the most recent BRC ECU - Sequent32) it did need a key and the key was unique to the machine it was running on.. You installed the software, which then generated a number probably based on your machine's network card mac address or something, which you then emailed to the supplier, who then emailed back your specific key. BRCGB wouldn't send Joe Public a key but when TinleyTech took over they would. As memory serves, the keys were valid for a year.

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