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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:38 am 
1995 BMW E36 Coupe 2.8 litre

Gassed up, did the 104.6 mile round trip to work, gassed up at the same pump and it took £11 and change so I get about 90 to the £10


I should point out the first 45 mins of the journey is nose to tail crawling and takes 45 mins to get 8 miles


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:26 pm 
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i seam to be doing about 25 mpg on gas if my maths is correct.
2 ltr n/a subaru forester
is gas in liquid for still around the 4.55 litres per gallon?
if you know what i mean lol


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:46 pm 
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Hi
I have a 2002 SUBARU OUTBACK H6 3000cc which I fitted with an ESGI kit and my mpg is on petrol 22mpg on lpg 20mpg so am very pleased


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:13 pm 
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70 litres gets me 500 miles in my 1.3 maestro van...my transit box van does 300 miles on 80 litres


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:51 am 
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AUDI A6 2.8 AUTO 300miles - 60litres

lpg price £0.80/L petrol price 1.29/l

thanks for goverment its not worth to convert car from petrol to lpg, in my opinion lpg should never ever cost more than half of the petrol price.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:06 pm 
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sharix wrote:
lpg price £0.80/L petrol price 1.29/l

thanks for goverment its not worth to convert car from petrol to lpg, in my opinion lpg should never ever cost more than half of the petrol price.
How do you work that out then? You're paying a higher than average price for LPG (I filled up yesterday at 72p) and your petrol price seems cheaper than round here. But, it's still cheaper. If you take into account the small amount of petrol you use (assuming a multipoint system), LPG would have to get to within 15-20p of the price of petrol for the running costs to be the same. It isn't the Government either. Fuel prices rise by a percentage so a 1% increase in the price of petrol is greater than a 1% increase in the price of LPG. The reason for the wildly different prices at different filling stations is down to the greed of the filling station operators.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:18 pm 
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From my point of view in england there is not enough places where to fill up LPG(in my town there is nowhere to fill up) , and second problem is price what we have to pay for lpg its crazy it defenetley should not be more than 50% of petrol price in many countries lpg cost 35%-40% of petrol price so that can make you save up to 50% of running costs thats why in many countries 20-50% running on lpg. Yes also i cant understand how its possible when in some lpg stations price is £0.60 and somewhere else £0.90 or even more :shock: :shock:



To convert from petrol to LPG cost a lot of money, + sometimes lpg system need service

Dont forget with 50 litres lpg you will get less miles than if you using 50 litres petrol and you can fill up petrol everywhere but if you using lpg you sometimes need looking where to fill up.

considering all above my savings probably is no more than 20% and that means its not worth to convert car from petrol to lpg its a lot better idea to use diesel car.

I think goverment could sort out this problem if they lower duty what we pay when we buy lpg.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:26 am 
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sharix wrote:
it defenetley should not be more than 50% of petrol price in many countries lpg cost 35%-40% of petrol price so that can make you save up to 50% of running costs thats why in many countries 20-50% running on lpg. Yes also i cant understand how its possible when in some lpg stations price is £0.60 and somewhere else £0.90 or even more
I don't know where you get your figures from, or when, but I drive in mainland Europe quite a bit and can tell you that prices of fuel, both petrol and LPG, are roughly the same throughout the EU. If you don't believe me, have a look here http://www.energy.eu/. 35-40% of the price of petrol just doesn't exist. For prices to drop by any appreciable amount you have to travel outside the EU and into the CIS countries where you are benefiting from cheaper Russian oil and gas prices. Even then, the difference as a percentage between LPG and petrol is still roughly the same.

I already explained why there is such a big difference between filling stations, because they can. A few months ago my local Flogas depot was selling LPG at 68p per litre. Just along the road is a filling station that was selling at 78p a litre but that filling station is supplied by the same Flogas depot. Now I doubt that Flogas charge the same to a filling station buying thousands of litres at a time as they charge to a member of the public so the filling station is likely to be paying less. Flogas are going to be making a profit on what they charge me so even if they do charge the filling station the same, the filling station is still making another 10p profit on every litre they sell. Because they can, people still fill up there. Not bad when you think about it. Most LPG users fill there tank each time with what, between 40 and 70 litres I would think. That's over £4 to £7 profit from every customer. Not a bad profit margin and far greater than they will ever get from selling petrol or diesel. As for number of stations, there are now over 1,000 filling stations in the UK, not bad when you consider there's roughly 150,000 cars on the roads running on LPG. That's 150 cars for every station, far less than for petrol and diesel but when you consider the profit they are making it's a nice little earner. If you don't have a station nearby, then that is a problem but I've never had any trouble finding anywhere to fill up, just look for a Shell or BP station, most of them sell it. Not only that, I have 7 filling stations within 8 miles of where I live. Maybe you should consider moving.......

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:46 pm 
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first post on the forum, but I have a bmw 740il, 4.4L, got a big tank that fills up 72L so not sure about the size, but yeah I get between 250 to 350 depending on the kind of driving, city or motorway for £42 :)


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:09 am 
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BMW X5 4.4 V8 40 ltr 130-140 miles


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Lexus ls430 4.3ltr 190-220 per 45ltrs


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:45 pm 
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2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0Ltr I6.
64 ltr of LPG 230 miles (£48.00 @ 76p).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:51 pm 
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Don't think it does, that's about 30 miles more than I get out of a similarly sized P38 Range Rover on 66 litres.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:56 pm 
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I do 20 miles each way to work, 18 is motorway driving.

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No, I'd say it's set up about spot on considering the size of the engine and the weight of the vehicle. If anything, it's better than I'd expect.

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Vectra V6 2.5 43 Litres = 200 miles on a continuous run, 70-80 mph. Does 220 miles in 'normal' use, the extra 20 down to the petrol starts I presume.... :)


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:03 am 
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Happy ... just done 100 miles on 30L over the past few days stop/start driving (4.0L 95 Cherokee, single point) :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:42 pm 
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roughly 230 miles to 65 litres i think that works out to about 19mpg thats on a 3 litre volvo amazon


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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 10:23 pm 
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I find non users of LPG understand the number of miles to the £1 easier. I explain that my Honda CRV runs about 7-8 miles for a £1 equivalent to about 40mpg on diesel which is better than 25mpg on petrol. I pay between 60p and 71p for LPG. You need to expl;ain that mpg on LPG is not as good as the petrol but it is the price that makes it economical.


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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 10:52 pm 
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Where's my can opener, need it for this can of worms...

Nobody has mentioned bottled gas. Forklift bottles bought at the right place would work out cheaper than pump gas. Bought from the wrong place (at the wrong price) it would work out more expensive. £25 a bottle works out about 71p/litre, but they are available from £19 which is 54p/litre. Some gas suppliers charge £40 for a forklift bottle and firms with forklifts don't seem to realise they're being ripped off.

I wouldn't advise anyone to do anything illegal... People have asked me about bottled gas before so I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up on this thread.

Red diesel / biodiesel etc are traceable. Bottled gas, once in a car's gas tank isn't traceable but a transfer pump is needed to get it in. The other way is to put the bottle in the boot and connect a line to the bottle, but this isn't safe even if the bottle is secured in the boot so don't try at home!

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