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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:57 pm 
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I have recently bought a low(ish) mileage Volvo 940 turbo and want to get it LPG converted.

My previous car had a rather untidy LPG conversion done on it that never really worked properly and I want to avoid the same situation.

So who is good and who should I avoid? What sort of cost will I be looking at so I know if the quote is too cheap (and will either go up or be a shoddy job with cheap components)?

I'm quite happy to travel and I have access to another vehicle so it doesn't matter too much how long I need to leave the car.

I'm currently based in Annan (Scottish Borders) but anywhere from Birmingham Northwards should be within reach.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:07 pm 
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If I was going to get another conversion done from scratch I'd take it to Simon - I'm in newcastle area and there's no-one around this area who compares IMO


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:22 pm 
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Absolutely, definitely one hundred percent highly recommend Simon in South Elmsall, Yorkshire http://www.lpgc.co.uk

He did our Lexus RX300 in July and did a brilliant job - couple of pictures here http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic/108697-lpg-conversion-and-the-petrol-gauge/

By the way Simon, I could have sworn I saw a picture of another RX300 that you've done recently tagged on to the bottom of that topic but it's gone now. Was I seeing things or was it really there? :shock:


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:23 pm 
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skip_rat wrote:
I have recently bought a low(ish) mileage Volvo 940 turbo and want to get it LPG converted.

My previous car had a rather untidy LPG conversion done on it that never really worked properly and I want to avoid the same situation.

So who is good and who should I avoid? What sort of cost will I be looking at so I know if the quote is too cheap (and will either go up or be a shoddy job with cheap components)?

I'm quite happy to travel and I have access to another vehicle so it doesn't matter too much how long I need to leave the car.

I'm currently based in Annan (Scottish Borders) but anywhere from Birmingham Northwards should be within reach.


There isn't much to be found in the way of cheap components - there are cheaper ones, but don't assume that going for BRC or Prins will give you better results, the critical thing is how well they are fitted. It might help to look at the likes of LPGshop and Tinley tech to see the price of components - This will give you a reasonable idea of the cost involved in the equipment, so should give you a rough idea how much effort they intend to put into installing it (anyone saying it can be done in a day is unlikely to achieve the level of install you want). They have full front end kits on there plus various tanks to compare.

Simon (LPGC) is certainly a good bet and within your area listed. Its worth dropping him an email or giving him a call if you haven't already heard from him as yet.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:48 pm 
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Absolutely, definitely one hundred percent highly recommend Simon in South Elmsall, Yorkshire http://www.lpgc.co.uk

He did our Lexus RX300 in July and did a brilliant job - couple of pictures here http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic/108697-lpg-conversion-and-the-petrol-gauge/

By the way Simon, I could have sworn I saw a picture of another RX300 that you've done recently tagged on to the bottom of that topic but it's gone now. Was I seeing things or was it really there? :shock:


Did you fit the fuel emulator? My Citroen has always indicated the wrong petrol reading. Just wonder how easy this is to fit?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:53 am 
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tucker1 wrote:
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Absolutely, definitely one hundred percent highly recommend Simon in South Elmsall, Yorkshire http://www.lpgc.co.uk

He did our Lexus RX300 in July and did a brilliant job - couple of pictures here http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic/108697-lpg-conversion-and-the-petrol-gauge/

By the way Simon, I could have sworn I saw a picture of another RX300 that you've done recently tagged on to the bottom of that topic but it's gone now. Was I seeing things or was it really there? :shock:


Did you fit the fuel emulator? My Citroen has always indicated the wrong petrol reading. Just wonder how easy this is to fit?


No, I didn't bother with it in the end because the fuel guage isn't as bad as I thought. Yes, it drops, just as it would if you were using petrol, but then after a few days it comes back up again almost back to where it was, showing that you've used a small amount of petrol, which as we all know, is normal. Then it'll start to drop again and in a few days the process is repeated, each time not getting back quite as high as it was the last time. So it's not as much of a problem as I thought and it is sort of working. I got the car back from Simon on 9th July and filled the petrol tank that day. Since then the petrol guage has dropped and come back up, dropped and come back up, maybe 10 or 12 times and is now indicating about 1/4 full in its 'up' position.

I don't know if this is a quirk of the way Lexus petrol guages work or if mine's just weird but I've decided I can live with it and not bother with the emulator.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:28 am 
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Fuel gauges on modern cars don't work like they used to, they display a calculated fuel level from the trip computer. I think a Lexus is triggered by the fuel flap being opened as well as a periodic reset in case it has got it wrong which is why it will drop then come back up again. When you open the fuel flap it assumes you have put petrol in it and looks at the level. It then goes on how much fuel the trip computer says you have used and makes the gauge read accordingly.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:52 am 
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My Citro├źn has done exactly the same ever since conversion 7 or 8 years ago. It drops then reset after a few days.
The only problem, and you may find this also, is that once under a quarter of a tank, the difference in the true level and gauge is no longer enough to reset and it stays on empty until you refill.
I am not sure what the difference in level and gauge needs to be but something like 10 litres and it doesn't recalculate.

That might not be problem if you refill ever time it drops to a quarter, but I don't tend to drive around with a full petrol tank. I will normally only put in half simply because I don't really want to be always carrying that extra weight.

So I end up guessing when to add petrol. So far in all the years it has only caught me out 3 times but it's something I don't particularly like, not being sure what is left and trying to remember when I last added petrol and if it's time to add more.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:05 pm 
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sorcerer wrote:
Absolutely, definitely one hundred percent highly recommend Simon in South Elmsall, Yorkshire http://www.lpgc.co.uk

He did our Lexus RX300 in July and did a brilliant job - couple of pictures here http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic/108697-lpg-conversion-and-the-petrol-gauge/

By the way Simon, I could have sworn I saw a picture of another RX300 that you've done recently tagged on to the bottom of that topic but it's gone now. Was I seeing things or was it really there? :shock:


Hi John, the forum admin Bluesman removed my post and sent me a stern PM explaining it was because I'd advertised. The gist of my reply was that although I implied a bit of an ad for myself (which would be the case anyway considering my username on other forum is also LPGC...), what I wrote wasn't a blatant off the cuff ad because it was on the same subject as your thread, and I could be of benefit to his forum as most of my time spent on forums is helping people with LPG problems without much in the way of an ad/benefit for myself... but I probably wouldn't do that as often if I couldn't sometimes put a word in for myself. He took exception again, reckoning I'd implied blackmail and implying they already have enough LPG experts (yeh right :lol:)... I've just replied to that saying I didn't imply blackmail, it's common sense that I probably wouldn't reply as much if my business had to remain anonymous, and that I wouldn't have much faith in LPG expertise of Lexus forum users who aren't LPG specialists... And then I added that users on many forums are often pointed by others to Lpgforum and therefore to myself, so another way of looking at it is that traffic is diverted from those forums to this Lpgforum, with all the implications regards advertising revenues etc that entails :lol: And I asked what would happen, in the case my business had to be anonymous, if his other forum users pointed out I was an Lpg pro... because then the situation really would start to get silly :roll: It's not like I was trying to advertise, say, poly-bushes by mail order while not helping forum users.. My intentions on forums are to help others while at the same time building recognition of my skills and expertise. If I were to start a thread on this forum (and I think I will) about the latest RX300 I just converted and how similar it is to your conversion, maybe you'd post a link to it from your relevant thread on that forum? :twisted: :lol:

Thanks for the thumbs up from everyone :D

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:08 pm 
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LPGC wrote:
If I were to start a thread on this forum (and I think I will) about the latest RX300 I just converted and how similar it is to your conversion, maybe you'd post a link to it from your relevant thread on that forum? :twisted: :lol:


I have now started such a thread ;) Here's a link...

http://www.lpgforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=14179&p=109986

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:41 pm 
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Not looking to take work off Simon here.

I have most certainly converted the most 940's of any installer in the UK going from the early days of mixer systems to the most recent injection systems.

They will run to a fashion on any kit but get it wrong and you will have issues. Unless things have changed Prins and BRC do not respond well to this engines due to how the injectors are fired. You need to consider an ECU that has the correct strategy for double pulsed injectors, a reducer that will run fairly high pressure, injectors that have good flow but are also are high resistance as low resistance injectors cause the injector drivers to get hot.

I like to use plug in injector cuts to save damaging the brittle factory loom
I dont drill the manifold as drilling the manifold makes removing it difficult after and saves an risk of swarf
The switch will fit nicely in one of teh spare switch panels on teh dash

The tank throws a lot of installers off as the spare wheel well has a dome in the middle. Not an issue and upto a 95ltr tank can be fitted in the wheel well when you know how to do it

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:30 pm 
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No probs Dai,

Yes Dai's the man for Volvo conversions and might be less miles from Scotland.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:51 am 
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Thanks for the replies, the car needs a few little jobs doing before the conversion as there's no point trying to convert it until the mechanical side is all sorted.

It's booked in for a new exhaust system next week and the lack of power has been traced to a split dump valve diaphram on the turbo but as soon as these are fixed I'll be in touch to get a conversion done.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:15 am 
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Are you aware Dai Classicswede is also a Volvo specialist...

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