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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:54 pm 
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Copied and pasted what I'd written here to a text file to be restored shortly.

Apparently an installer is about to attempt to convert this model.. a Prins installer, who advises using Prins equipment at that.

Unless the installer has already read, soaked up and understood all the points I wrote in this write-up - I will be here to pick up the pieces when they cannot achieve good drive-ability and the engine bay looks like a dogs dinner, and my bill to put it right won't be cheap. A more detailed explanation in my 10/01/17 post on this thread.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:11 pm 
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Great write up and pictures Simon.
What a beast of a car, can only dream of what 800 bhp is like under your right foot.

Simon is there any chance of have look at my last post - re alfa romeo.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:16 am 
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Thanks. I just replied on your thread.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:11 am 
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Hi,
Can't see any lpg injectors in your pictures, where are they?
Did you have remove the inlet manifolds?
Did you have to set it up as 2 different systems but try to end up with the same readings?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:49 pm 
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57jam89 wrote:
Can't see any lpg injectors in your pictures, where are they?

The 5th pic down (just before the tank pic) shows the driver side of the inlet manifold, the individual injectors are installed directly onto each of the manifold's port runners, except they're not in the pic because I hadn't fitted them when I took the pic! Normally you won't see them because they are below the charge coolers and air filters but with the engine cover off you can see the 4 gas distributor blocks that feed the injectors.
57jam89 wrote:
Did you have remove the inlet manifolds?
Didn't have to but did.
57jam89 wrote:
Did you have to set it up as 2 different systems but try to end up with the same readings?
Should always end up with the same readings. Only really need to calibrate one side, then copy the config file to the other ECU and see how that bank behaves. If there were any more than very marginal difference in how the 2 banks behaved with the same config file then it would be likely the setup/config was wrong in some way... Then set one ECU as master and one as slave, then see how the engine behaves when both sides are switched to gas.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:46 pm 
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57jam89 wrote:
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Can't see any lpg injectors in your pictures, where are they?

In a similar place to where I fitted them on your Skyline mate! Single injectors right next to the inlet port with pipe lengths between port runners and injectors less than an inch. There are definitely injectors fitted ;-)

Old thread, I just revisited to get the link to post on another thread for Robertxx, couldn't resist the above comment :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:04 pm 
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As I write 10/01/17 an installer that I don't know is contemplating converting a similar vehicle to this. I know this because the installer's supplier has phoned me once a day for the last few days specifically to ask me how to do it, so that they can pass the info on to the installer. The installer, who apparently usually fits Prins or BRC, intended on fitting Prins or BRC on the vehicle in question but will now be fitting KME Nevo based on a tip I gave the supplier. I gather the only other system the installer has fitted besides Prins and BRC is LPGTech, which is system which the supplier usually recommends leaving to calibrate itself using it's default 'Tech mode'. I found out today that the car they're about to convert isn't the same spec 6.3L V12 bi turbo as the car that this thread is about, it is the older 5.3 V12 turbo, which is a lot easier to convert properly, so there is a good chance that they will achieve decent results (if this installer attempted to convert the same spec car that I converted in this thread I wouldn't expect them to achieve anything like decent results). I'm being a bit coy with the supplier, who told me they will be looking back at my previous orders to see what parts I fitted on the car in this thread. But even if I went into detail on what I fitted and how I fitted them, if this were a CL65AMG and they fitted everything exactly the same as I did they still wouldn't be able to realise the same results. Supplier 'If they struggle can they phone you', me 'Tell them they can bring it in and I will sort it'. I don't know them, so not something they're going to get full credit for if they need to pick my brains, not when (as case is likely to be) they will have been advising people for years that they're great at the job / fit the best equipment / should be given the work over others because they're members of UKLPG. Me and a few other good installer mates swap tips all the time but this is a different situation. In the meantime I expect the installer will be giving the customer every impression that they know exactly what they are doing and the customer will be completely unaware of what's going on. The supplier, however, is already contemplating involving KME's top tech guy.. I don't think he'd give me much of a run for my money either. Further irony is that I dare say my customer with the Merc on this thread wouldn't have minded having a chat with the owner of the Merc about to be converted, and I would have charged less than this other installer.

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